I keep getting a generic error message(500) every time I attempt to access the site. It's been down for like two weeks. Are there any updates anywhere on what's going on?
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There's at least three books by Thomas Carpenter, where the basic premise (but nothing else, IMO) is very similar: Humanity is down, almost everyone spends their time in a virtual reality (knowingly) and everyone plays The Game, which decides if and how you live.
(There's another trilogy by him which IMO could be a prequel to the digital sea, but I don't think it is.)
Please note that i'm expressively saying that merely the very basic premise is similar - I'm not saying one copied the other or any such.
It's simply that the idea of a world like that is rather novel - at least to me, I guess in the future we'll have that more often, as VR or rather AR will become commonplace.
I'm just curious if it's indeed a coincidence, or if the general idea was picked up and used in a different way.
(Also, I'd guess that anyone reading this comic might enjoy that book. A good read (be it book or comic) is always worth mentioning.)
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http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Not_a_Villain#Story_and_Plot
to elaborate:
- Where are the servers?
- How do they power the servers and computers? Can't that energy be better utilized for more constructive purposes?
- Why does everyone want to play this game instead of rebuild society?
- How do they transmit power to people's homes, or maintain a solid network connection if there's a bunch of forbidden zones?
- If there are forbidden zones, someone must have made them so. Who did it? The government? Tyrannical wasteland overlords?
- How do isolated people know where the forbidden zones are?
- Why do they value a MMORPG more than books, chess, conversation, card games, art, and so on? Are these things somehow more valuable in their virtual form?
- How are outsiders able to live if they can't scavenge outside without choking, or getting burns and cancer?
- In fact, this raises all sorts of other questions, like how can their equipment survive the solar winds?
- If people can survive in those conditions, and if they do use the game for books, chess, conversation, card games, art, and so on because those things don't exist inside the safe zones, couldn't they scavenge for the real life equivalents?
- If they can't survive in those conditions, what's to stop people from creating new ones in real life?
- If people just use the game for human interaction, what happened to VOIP, SMTP, videotelephony, and other communications protocols as dictated by the IEEE 802.1 standards?
Now stretch out, take five. There's even more to come. Ready? Good.
- Did I forget to mention that their entire economy is based on this game?
- Who the fuck decided that it was a good idea to place the entire stability of your market off of a service which could crash at any minute? (Reminds me of something else that's hilariously broken.)
- Why do they have the resources to keep the servers running, but not the resources to build more Oculus Rifts? What happens when they all break, does the economy implode?
- If the economy is based off of this MMO, how do the people who run this game make a living?
- The people in the cities are the only ones forced to pay a subscription to play, and they all pay for things like food and medicine with the game's currency, so do the people who run it have to play the game too?
- If the game costs money for citizens, why not charge for outsiders so that the economy can thrive? Why not put them to work?
- If the economy isn't based off of the game, why can people use its credits to buy shit?
- Since their currency is digital in nature, what's preventing people from fabricating new credits outsideof the game and then laundering them by creating a dummy account?
It's stated that people can be forced into financial destitution if they don't make enough money to play. Not only that, but it's also stated that the kids are the ones who make money while the parents work on the farms, and the corporations only let the kids play if they keep making that money. In fact, the only featured people who are older than thirty, so far, is some old dude and his wife. And so:
- Are the kids the only ones who make money in the game?
- Why can't adults make money off the game too?
- If people make money off of the game then they're allowed to keep playing the game, so why don't people just release some success guides in order to saturate the game with successful players? Wouldn't that show the corporations that their system is flawed?
And that's just the bare tip of the iceberg.
I really like many of Jane's. "Kats are always odd" and "Psh, sanity is relative" are pretty fun.
Also, Kat shouting "I. Will. Be. Nice." is great for the irony.
What're some of your favorite quotes?
Any ideas? I know that some of the more unique words are Japanese or Chinese based words. Does Esone, or something similar, mean anything in those languages?
Do we have her name? We have the father's name but I don't recall ever learning the mother's name.
I created a new template to use for listing the comic pages that a character is on. Here is how it is used on Jake's page:
{{Comic pages|official_list=the-bandit|other_pages=71,72,73,74,75,76,77|possible_pages=39}}
And here it is on Julius Sander's page:
{{Comic pages|other_pages=02}}
The official_list parameter is for characters that have an official page on Not a Villain.
The other_pages parameter is for all pages that are not listed in the official page or, if a character doesn't have an official page, for all pages the character appears in. It is a comma separated list.
The possible_pages parameter is for pages where we think the character is there but it isn't certain because they are in different avatar, character, name, etc. It is a comma separated list.
Also, you can just add the template without any parameters like{{Comic pages}}and it will add a category to the page so that others can find it and add the parameters.
Page 56 shows Danni shaking a drawn character. This is back in the time when blobs were used for background characters so the fact that it is a colored character is possibly important. And then, if you look at the file name for the incentive that day (http://navcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/8-sidekick-thinking-pg-56.png), it says "sidekick" and is talking about the boy (since he is the one thinking). Could this be Brandon?
The clothing on Page 56 is similar to the clothing on Page 136. And the clothing in the incentive is different. I'm guessing the clothing in the incentive is the original color but Aneeka decided a different color scheme for Brandon and so fixed up Page 56.
A new poll has been added to the front page. It asks what alignment Kleya's team will be: Hero vs Villain. Reply with what you answer was and why you think so.
I think we need a new front page. I created the current front page and it isn't very engaging. I'm an engineer, not a designer, so it leaves much to be desired. I've looked at various wikis here on wikia and would like to incorporate some of their ideas but I don't know how to make it look nice. Give some ideas on what you want the front page to look like.
Also, we should probably have some sort of logo. I don't think we can just take the comic's logo so we probably should design our own that is similar to the main one.
Does anyone have suggestions for polls we could setup? One thought I have is which alignment should the team have. Any others?
I found a fun game:
First, you open one tab in your window to the NAV website. Another tab is open here, on this Wiki. You click on the Random Page once.
The page that opens is now your objective: you have to add something constructive to it. You can either add a picture, and info, a link, correct grammar, make the structure easier to follow, etc. If you have to, you can even click on one of the red non-existant links and make a new page. That counts.
You can NOT go on until you have made the page better in some way.
You tally your points.
My score: 1 (Kleya's Mother)
Orange Blossom's Violist (talk) 18:22, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
Do we have any information on exactly why the hacker hunts started? And did it start before The Ending (meaning pole shift, super volcano, etc) or after it?
If you were in The Game, what would your character be like? Would your character be offense-oriented, defence-oriented, etc? What specials would you have, and how would they work? Would you be a team-leader, or would you be alone like Saisuke? A hero or a villain?
I think it sounds like it would be fun to play in it. Of course, as time goes on, we'll be able to find out more about The Game, but it's always fun to come up with stuff for now.
After I have time to think this out, I'll answer my own question, as well, sometime this week.